In a recent conversation with best-selling author and renowned thinker Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali discussed the critical challenges facing the West, both from internal and external threats. As a leading defender of Western values, Murray’s books—The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds, and The War on the West—have outlined the dangers to liberal democracies and offered potential solutions. Ayaan found the discussion encouraging, especially Murray’s message of hope for society, and expressed gratitude for the opportunity to engage in such a thought-provoking exchange.